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stop hunts in gbp

Posted on August 26, 2009 at 10:39 in Market comment, Market forecast, Operators' intentions by Dr. S. Sivaraman

GBP is making prolonged lower level consolidation with downward stop hunts,cutting the initial low and then come again and go below to form another low and come again above initial low - the traders are nervously holding long positions and players are creating fear to buy when their stops are filled.Mid session this helps them to rise EURO/GBP  as well - inducing short covering.rest of the currencies are not making any significant moves.From 11 GMT the players are expected to focus on Majors and firm them up towards close of European session and during US session.

Regards

Dr.Sivaraman

52 Responses to “stop hunts in gbp”

  1. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:03 am1Ahmed

    Thanks for the timely updates.
    Regards.

  2. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:23 am2Jimbo

    Thanks for your update doc, maybe they saw your post :-) it’s still dropping. Maybe they will rise tomorrow ?

  3. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:24 am3smith

    so, there is panic in GBP as we see but just firming up moves is not to much after this kind of downward move. We are far away from the expected levels on the upside mentioned at the webinars.
    The only thing we can see is that the volume is growing continuosly during downward move.

    smith

  4. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:27 am4joshhh

    players are trying to prove you wrong Doc..they all are reading only this & watching my positions only…they are after this group…

  5. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:28 am5travis

    the doc has beibg saying rise for 3weeks…when all we get is slight retraces…..he has been saying buying dips for 3weeks….now stop hunt….trade what you see…not what you think

  6. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:29 am6joshhh

    so after this huge drop if the fibs retracement is there, will it qualify as big Rise or only +net change for the day will be the one to look.

  7. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:47 am7Arun kandyal

    Hi Dr
    If they know traders are holding longs then why should they rise ,they can make money by drop more and rise only 40-50 pips.And they are doing.

    Regards
    Arun Kandyal

  8. on 26 Aug 2009 at 11:54 am8Susumi

    Thanks for your update.But still gbp facing down even after 11 GMT.

  9. on 26 Aug 2009 at 12:43 pm9Arun kandyal

    Hi Dr

    They are droping blindly and you talking about just firm them up towards close of European session and during US session.

  10. on 26 Aug 2009 at 12:48 pm10Minor

    Patience gives reward.

  11. on 26 Aug 2009 at 12:54 pm11Jaf

    I have been reading the blogs since Friday and Monday.The gist of the blogs are after downhunt pip hunt there will a rise in GBP and euro.Sice then GBP has fallen from 1.656 level to 1.6230.Soon it will go up but only after a fall of 350 odd pips!!!I appreciate that it is difficult to be correct all the time but sometimes it would be worthwile to urge caution when lower levels are expected

  12. on 26 Aug 2009 at 1:25 pm12smith

    it is not about patience, we are in the wrong way waiting for the rise in GBP… this is the weakest link. that’s all.

    and if we see the daily net change limit it can go down to 1.61.

  13. on 26 Aug 2009 at 1:32 pm13Arun kandyal

    patience ya can see and feel

  14. on 26 Aug 2009 at 1:40 pm14maxi

    this big drop, like last year… double dip on 2nd half of credit crunch, can go way down again

  15. on 26 Aug 2009 at 1:52 pm15JTL

    To the readers that have been taking the other side of my trades

    I am very impressed at how relentlessly many of you follow the Dr.s guidance. As prices plummeted from 1.66-1.64-1.62 you continued to ‘buy on dips’ as i short the market. The liquidity you provide by following blindly is wonderful.

    However I can’t help but drop some advice as I watch you get slaughtered following the Dr. orders. you look like Michael Jackson; You just wanted to get better and took what the Dr. said take, not knowing just how deadly it could be.

    You must practice money management rather you are following your own advice or someone else’s. In that money management you must include the following:

    The max loss from entry you will allow before closing your order
    The max risk you will take as a percentage of your available capital
    The max number of losing trades you will take per day
    The max number of loosing trades you will take per week
    A target profit per trade
    A percentage of capital gain you will never risk again
    The max percentage of your available capital you will allow to lose before you abandon the investment medium and look for something more profitable or study to find out what you are doing wrong…there is not much study in blindly following someone’s advice.

    As a speculator your goals are either cash flow and or capital growth. Don’t loose your account before realizing you need to make changes.

  16. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:08 pm16Arun kandyal

    Hi Dr
    You said Visible gains are expected from today.what is visible?

  17. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:08 pm17Sum

    Goog job doctor, please keep it up.

    Sum

  18. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:09 pm18nextHtime

    On many occasions I have disagreed with the Doc and went against his expectations even though my fellow traders told me what are you doing? And I said it’s my money verses the Doc’s expectations … MY MONEY wins. I just can’t follow blindly as long as I’m not blind.

    The Doc always said don’t get influenced by thinking that any particular currency should go this way or that way, just trade with the market. And anything that was forecasted it’s just an expectation not a prophecy. If we don’t have a plan what do you want from the Doc? We have to be ready for anything that the market could through at us and not the Doc. Greed and Fear ruled me once but no more, now I just stick to my guns=plan.

    Happy and Profitable Day

  19. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:21 pm19Orlando

    Arun,
    What’s visible is gains if you took shorts. o_0

  20. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:23 pm20su25

    Few observations and thoughts:
    1. Daily permissible net change has not been attained;
    2. Previous week’s low has been cut for Gbp not for Eur;
    3. Eur, Jpy and Chf are trading within last week’s range;
    4. Rarely is previous week’s high AND low cut in the SAME week;
    5. Rarely do currencies end the week & month closer to the maximum net change posted for the week & month (for eg. last week Gbp posted a max net change of -246 but closed at -14. And for last month Gbp posted a max net change of -482 and closed at +251);
    6. For this week Gbp has posted a max net change of -356 and is trading at -303 now;
    7. For this month Gbp has posted a max net change of -563 and is trading at -512 now;
    8. I am not concerned whether ongoing price action is to handle crosses or contrarian moves - all that is “hindsight” analysis - same reason why Doc is not concerned with historical performance of price action or forecast;
    9. What is important in trading is to decided whether I should participate in the current price action, if yes, how (trading plan); and
    10. Finally - I decide when to pull the trigger.

    Anybody has any comments or thoughts to share?

  21. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:36 pm21Rich

    The money I made this month was using the rules, not the forecast.
    I decided to try a small amount without hedging and just let it ride. So, I too wish the rise happened sooner but I am fully responsible for the trade. I do not hold Doc responsible for the market not moving.
    Most of my trades this month, I have followed the rules and used hedging, which worked out fine. The lots I am holding with out hedging is an amount I am comfortable with, as I am not trading with scared money.
    There doesn’t seem to be any data until tomorrow that the players can blame a 300 pip move on.
    BTW, I opened a 2nd account with a small amount of money in and that is the account I use for the non hedged trades (mini, not standard) and if for some reason, doc is absolutly wrong, then so be it. I tried something and it didn’t work.
    But, the rules, which Doc says must be followed, take into account the fact that the market might not go up, ever. Thats why you drop the original position when the hedge starts to make some money. That rule makes the actual market direction absolutly meaningless.

  22. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:40 pm22mice

    hi frds

    i see eurgbp reach a good level and need some corretion down , and made a good upstop now the eurgbp will help gbp to gain some levels , we might see again 1.63 today

  23. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:43 pm23vinesh

    Doc do you have any comments on UCAD whether it suppose to rise above 1.11

  24. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:46 pm24maxi

    su25 good comments, is there net change table on web?
    so you agree with doc and are in buy positions already?

    at time of writing I see the V dip in GBP/USD just made, drop and firm rise up to drop start, its reversal to rise as docs forecast

  25. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:50 pm25johnra

    Dear su25
    I have left a reply on yesterdays thread under contrarian moves.
    Kind Regards

  26. on 26 Aug 2009 at 2:58 pm26maxi

    must be a month end reversal move?

  27. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:02 pm27ejthekkan

    Where do eur/usd & gbp/usd will go based on fundamentals?

  28. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:07 pm28johnra

    Dear su25
    Re your observations in 14 above.I think 2 and 4, when coupled indicate that any rise on the GBP would be limited.I would like to believe what 5,6 and 7 indicate.ie large positive divergence from the present negative net change on GBP for both the week and the month.
    Kind Regards

  29. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:12 pm29Dr. S. Sivaraman

    dear All
    Every month end and month beginning time this sort of uncertanities could be seen and when the levels are deviated from the ’statistically estimated levels’ there could be doubt about the estimates.I am willing to accept if it is wrong,hence I suggested trading strategies to limit the risk.I request readers not to compare with earlier big moves- that could creATE MORE UNCERTANITES.
    Obviously the players are great as they have the potency to change the world market sentiments.
    I am trying to read by many means and that may turnout wrong at times.I am sorry about it.
    Regards
    Dr.Sivaraman

  30. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:19 pm30Rich

    Doc,
    I hope you do not feel at all responsible for traders.
    Your rules, when followed, will lead to a trader making profit.
    I am sure that you wish the forecast was right %100 correct every time.
    I, for one, truly appreciate what you do here and would not want to see you stop.
    Thank you for the opportuinity that you provide.

  31. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:20 pm31Nazali

    HI Dr

    If you where right all the time you would be invited to be one of the players!!
    what’s expected from here - any change? Many thanks

  32. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:23 pm32jaydee

    Dear doc, hence the forecast or the predicted levels change now??? if yes please update and tell here..

  33. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:25 pm33su25

    maxi
    I do not trade Doc’s views. I do use weekly and monthly net change figures for trading decisions. And, I sometimes have both sell and buy positions in the same currency pair. I trade primarily Gbp/Jpy.
    I do not like to comment on specific trades, but this once :) Gbp/Usd offers buy/sell and sell/buy trading opportunities several times a week - for me sell/buy trade is not attractive anymore with current price action, I would now start looking for buy/sell trades very soon, but not just yet (price action does not yet support my buy/sell criteria). I am indifferent to specific price levels.

  34. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:29 pm34grow

    Do you think a bottom is in in the gbpusd

  35. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:38 pm35E. Sheikh

    THIS A TREND REVARSAL GUYS, GET READY FOR A BIG RIDE!

  36. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:39 pm36su25

    I have stated figures for Gbp to remind readers that this pair is a volatile pair, and today’s price action should not be reason for panic.

    Doc, I find it odd that you write “I request readers not to compare with earlier big moves- that could CREATE MORE UNCERTANITIES.” You very often post “Drop to rise big” (Aug 25) which creates a bias!

  37. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:40 pm37Roopal

    Hi all,
    I am completely agree with Rich that doc’s rules works fine. Forcast can go wrong and for that he always advice to use strategy but we all fail to use it properly out of fear or bias. I also lost money doing same but I am taking complete resposibility of my trade as I am the one who take decisions to play or not. believe me guys when you understand that your trade is your own resposibility you will not blame any one. and you will do better also.
    According to me Doc is trying to help small traders like us as how to play in the market without fear. In the past there are lot of cases when people make good money using his help. So all I want to tell you guys dont over trade and appreciate Doc’s help and try to play safe.

  38. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:49 pm38Nazali

    The Dr’s rules do work but it’s difficult to remove the bias given in a forecast and I know that I may have a bias from the forecast even thought I may not want to be influenced by it.

  39. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:51 pm39Sum

    Dear doctor, please you are a great one. Wrong this time, but most times you are right.

    I have learn a lot from your momments. I feel very fortunate to have you in the panel. I hope one day I could see the market the way you do.

    Thank,

    Sum

  40. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:52 pm40prochargedmopar

    I went long too.
    It tanked against me.
    I played a retrace and ended the day with +87.0 pips total.
    Yes, I wish I would have continued to trade what I saw (short on corrections) but it was a good learning experience that came out ok. Next time, I trade momentum (momo) with Doc’s trading strategies instead of his prediction.

    Whew.
    Tough day.

  41. on 26 Aug 2009 at 3:56 pm41skajake

    I think the current downward pressure might be the result of decreased risk appetite caused by an unstable US stock session.

  42. on 26 Aug 2009 at 4:16 pm42Jenks

    People should perhaps remember that the Dr. doesn’t charge for his guidance and nobody is forced to follow his readings.

    IMO.

  43. on 26 Aug 2009 at 4:19 pm43vinesh

    Doc your forecasts are very well respected. We appreciate your input and willingess to teach us. Traders who listen to your calls and make their moves and get out on time are in good shape some become greedy or read too much into it get blown out and then blame you. They need a little bit more guideance in my opinion

  44. on 26 Aug 2009 at 4:25 pm44Francesco

    Dear Dr. Sivaraman,

    I suspect that we will see some consolidation and then a new break lower.

    How do you see it?

    Thanks

  45. on 26 Aug 2009 at 5:05 pm45EC

    Guys, I do not get the point, what is so tragic? Actually, situation has not changed very much! What trend reversal, what are you talking about? Drop was not that big and overall has not changed anything!

  46. on 26 Aug 2009 at 5:14 pm46Ahmed

    Respected Dr,
    Your rules and strategy are invaluable.Of course forecast can’t be right every time and then money management comes in.Thanks for updating the blog when you feel to do so.
    Regards

  47. on 26 Aug 2009 at 6:44 pm47Emil

    Dear SU25
    Great if you have an MT4 indicator that could keep track of the net change figures for day, week and month.
    thanks

  48. on 26 Aug 2009 at 7:20 pm48p.a.

    hi doc,

    i think eurgbp’s now ripe (i expected it to turn sooner too).

    regards,
    p.a.

  49. on 26 Aug 2009 at 8:36 pm49eminitrader

    Thank you Doc for your FREE information. If one follows your suggestions and uses stops or hedging to reduce risk, they would not become angry. The ones that are posting harsh comments are obviously not following simple instructions and trading based on emotion. Thanks again for your forecasts.

  50. on 27 Aug 2009 at 2:36 am50hugme

    Dear su25,
    Could you share with us about your strategy when trading eur/gbp?Many thanks.

  51. on 27 Aug 2009 at 3:08 am51su25

    Dear hugme (is that hug me :))
    I don’t trade that pair, sorry can’t help you there.
    Regards

  52. on 27 Aug 2009 at 4:19 am52Nimesh

    I have been reading your comments every now and then. You mentioned traders are holding long positions. How do you get this information about how many traders are holding long positions?

    I was holding long positions and then I gave up.

    Does that show in the data, how many long positions are given up?

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