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When all turn long …….

Posted on November 5, 2009 at 14:44 in Market comment, Market forecast, Operators' intentions by Dr. S. Sivaraman

Every data and speech are perceived good.When all cover their shorts and turn long in EURO and GBP,some one has to come and buy from them at higher levels.Normally the short sellers - but they are afraid to short,then the players can buy - but they already gained levels and taken sell positions by hitting stops and supplying to bullish buyers at higher levels.Now we need to witness how the players give surprise and say too much of good is also bad. 

This is how the market is structured and manipulated.Hence we need to keep in mind the players create market sentiments and act against traders when they have commited positions.

Regards

Dr.Sivaraman

34 Responses to “When all turn long …….”

  1. on 05 Nov 2009 at 2:55 pm1Adnan Butt

    Respected Dr,

    Thanks for updates

    ur analysis and observations are of much value for us

    only tell us int he next days where u see the eur/usd?

    Finally down down down or again testing year high

    ur comments are appreciated

    Adnan Butt

  2. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:01 pm2jefe

    Doc–

    Looks like GU has turned into buyers– but still more sellers holding on EU and GY.. we might be waiting a bit…

  3. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:03 pm3pipso

    Dear Doctor,

    It looks like almost 200 pips gain in eurusd so far this week eventhough we saw a downward stophunt on tuesday, so your much predicted fall hasnt happenned this week yet, much may not happen tomr as it is a friday. We had seen last couple of friday’s major fall in eurusd but straightaway pickup on mondays to discount the fall. Is it possible Doctor that with all the rise moves so far this month, fall in eurusd might be delayed till end of this month. If so, please give forecast accordingly and we need to prepare for hedges against further rise in eurusd before the fal comes if at all. Thank you

  4. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:08 pm4Jaf

    Hello Doc

    You say market is manipulated.Maybe you are right but if that was case then you should have forecast levels beforehand otherwise we could be entering the field before the players and not following them.

  5. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:22 pm5Tony T

    Doc. I dont believe that the first para in your latest comment can make very much sense to anyone. When “all cover their shorts” someone has to sell to them and not buy from them ! Maybe you could clarify what you mean as it is not up to your normal precise and astute comments

  6. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:45 pm6maxi

    the big players are setting higher limit sells each time, but still within net levels, drop is imminent

  7. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:49 pm7smith

    all the way rise again but the daily highs are remains. The problem is that the rise is slow, so it can be an intentional move.

  8. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:54 pm8Adnan Butt

    Perhaps it is all due to rising american stocks Dow is 182 points up, stocks will stop rising then majors will start going down

    bot when

    nobody knows

  9. on 05 Nov 2009 at 3:56 pm9carlab

    Dear Dc: I think a little of fine tuning in the algorithms is badly needed. Expectations ydy were to cut week lows 1.4626 and 1.6265 or so.Even volatiliy is up in last few minutes since your last quote. What is making forecast been so wrong lately? Is it because a big move is coming?

  10. on 05 Nov 2009 at 4:16 pm10pipso

    Carlab

    I have been requesting for a modification in timing oof the algorithm for a while now. I dont say anything anymore because all of a sudden I become the “bad guy” here. This is 3 or 4 months in a row where forecast has not been working. I say no more. I dont want pipso bashing comments now. Doctor is genuine and very helpful at the forum, webinar, you cant really ask for more. Doctor is giving market commentary, exxplainingthings - experts out there are not doing that. But if one is not earning or failing to hold on to the winnings. I say no more - I am just generally fraustarated. I also know that no one controls the market, possibly even the players.

  11. on 05 Nov 2009 at 4:59 pm11jefe

    Anyone notice the range of the U/Yen?

    Something is up…

  12. on 05 Nov 2009 at 5:47 pm12Francesco

    Dear Pipso and all,

    I don’t know how the Dr.’s algorithm works, so is hard for me to judge.
    I believe that when market goes on the opposite direction of the forecasted one, algorithm will be updated accordingly.
    Market moves might be fast, but sentiment generally last for 2/3 days, otherwise forex would never have a logic and noone would be able to profit.

    I observed the market, and learnt from Dr.Sivarman that players move it by creating the sentiment and acting against it; what unfortunately happens to us small traders is that we rarely are moving with that sentiment (or at least we should learn to do it more), and when eventually market reverses we can catch only a small profit or sit in front of a loss.
    Hedging is useful but not easy to practice, as market often swings and takes stops; this can cause overtrading thus more chances to meet a bad trade.
    I have thus realized that I have made money when I have been able to follow the 2/3 or X days sentiment that players create.
    Please note that sentiment may also be on the long term; if from March I would have sold the USD on his strong days, I would have made money in most of my trades…

    Also notice that when players create the sentiment, they tend to extremize it, and show the levels for a quite long time, sometimes even 2 or 3 times or at least the time they require to open their positions.
    So there’s actually no need to worry and trade furiously as sometimes we tend to do, at condition that we are following the market sentiment…

    I am very thankful to Dr.Sivarman for his system is often very correct; I am even thankful when the forecast is not correct cause it teaches me to think myself and to observe the market more and more before acting.
    We have to learn to go with the flow and act against, we have to be “the players” ;)

    With my regards to all

  13. on 05 Nov 2009 at 5:57 pm13Adnan Butt

    Dear francesco,

    I agree with u and appreciate ur analysis and sentiments.

    Adnan Butt

  14. on 05 Nov 2009 at 6:04 pm14Robin

    Guys what is happening out??? Both GU and EU is rising from last 3-4 days !!!!!!!When we will see a Big drop of about 350 pipsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!

  15. on 05 Nov 2009 at 6:37 pm15Dr. S. Sivaraman

    Dear All
    I am able to find the frustrations are expressed when the market moves against for a few more days - or for long when lowest level unfavorable positions are held.

    I am also a trader like you all.I have been explaining every time - I use the algorithm to get the over all expected market moves,then try to read the intentions of the players to perfect the expected move for my trading and to give to all,besides I expect the unexpected - because I will not be knowning fully the exact volume of shorts and longs built up in the market from time to time(which is known to players by many means - hence they are able to strongly rise the market without the fear of sellers or drop the market without the fear of buyers).Hence I use hedging and associated trading strategies to limit the risk and maximizing the profit.So now you may understand that we need to use all the three components mentioned above to perfect our trading and to earn net profit from the market.

    Any type of market analysis will have the limitations and surprises - hence all analysts use disclaimer and say the calls are for demo trading purpose only.

    My personal opinion is that the disclaimer may protect the analysts but may not help the receiver of the analysis.

    Hence I though over it and giving - the forecast as expected market moves,the market readings if there is deviation from the expected moves as update and explain every time during webinars and many time in the blog the importance of using hedging to limit the risk and to maximize the reward.

    I am following all in my trades,even though I have many years of experience in reading the players intentions.

    I humbly request the traders to follow all the trading components, instead of the forecast alone and get frustrated with me and the market.

    I want to help small traders to understand market with in the sphere, without hurting my subscribed members.

    In this I am not expecting any reward or popularity or subscription.
    I feel sad when traders lose money.Still I donot know the real method to prevent traders making losses.I can only suggest -avoid over trading, avoid to become addict to trading,learn to accept small losses,control emotions and limit the risk and maximize the profit using trading strategy,focus on your trades without distraction,develop your insight to read the market,keep in mind we come to market to earn and improve our life comfort and niot to sacrifice live comfort for the sake of trading.

    PLEASE THINK AND ACT.

    Regards
    Dr.Sivaraman

  16. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:01 pm16Santosh

    Doctor,

    A very nice post and if after this also somebody wants to criticize , I very strongly suggest IGNORE THEM

  17. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:02 pm17Adnan Butt

    Respected Dr,

    Very Very thanks for ur advices. No doubt we the new and small traders should act upon all the instructions and advices given by u time to time.

    thanks a lot for ur pains u bear for us.

    Adnan Butt

  18. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:03 pm18Emil

    Wise words Dr. Many thanks

  19. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:06 pm19Santosh

    To everybody else , This blog is like any other analysis on the web. Doc has not put any disclaimers but please keep in mind that it is a analysis/forecast and universal disclaimer is “This is a probable outcome and not ensured”.
    Full sympathy to anybody who is loosing money , I am sure experience gained will help you next time to get everything back from this market.

    Trust me this is coming from a person who made 182,000 USD in a week and lost 90,000 USD in another.

    Take care guys !!!

  20. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:27 pm20hugme

    As inexperienced and small trader,one easily gets lost facing the wild market.The Dr.’s calls inevitably become the hope and guide—-I think this is the psychologic reason why many of us still often get into panic emotions.We ‘d rather develop and use own trading strategy than only calls.In that way we won’t improve skills even though we make some money for a while.
    I believe Dr.is genuine and do wanna help us.His method is precious and give us many insights to better understand the market.I wish all of us can learn and improve all the time so as to earn steadilly some day by our own.I believe this is also the wishes from respected Dr.

  21. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:27 pm21Chris

    Santosh. good ratio congrats

  22. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:34 pm22Amey

    Santosh

    Are you from India??Please give your ID so we can have a chat!

  23. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:38 pm23Amey

    Shri GURU(Doctor)

    Sir,How to know about the ratios of buyer and sellers??Ie how many traders have gone Long or Short ??

  24. on 05 Nov 2009 at 7:48 pm24Santosh

    thanks Chris :-)

  25. on 05 Nov 2009 at 8:22 pm25daffyd

    Hi Doc
    I only wish you could be right all the time but we all know this is not possible. With trading I believe that we have no control in which direction the market goes and no control over the amount of profit we make. The only element of trading that we do have control over is the loss we are willing to take and that is down to the individual to manage themselves and not just follow your guidance blindly with the hope that your right all of the time. I appreciate your guidance and build your techniques around my own strategies. This is all about learning. Many thanks again.

  26. on 05 Nov 2009 at 8:30 pm26Santosh

    Hi AMey,
    To a certain extent weekly data can be taken from COTS report
    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/05/COTreport.asp

  27. on 05 Nov 2009 at 8:31 pm27Santosh

    regarding previous post please note that it is a complex analysis data and may not be suitable for very new traders from the day 1. It will be good to know and learn about it though

  28. on 05 Nov 2009 at 8:54 pm28Francesco

    Please note how sentiment counts,

    when a currency is talked down, is not easy to stop it.
    FOMC said exactly what market expected, and USD went down.
    Mr.Trichet says recovery is on but data are disappointing, that he wants a strong dollar and that he’s concerned of currencies volatility (an official way to say EUR is too strong) and USD goes down more.

    On a “strong USD” sentiment period, such events could have make the greenback gain 200 - 300 pips in a day.

  29. on 05 Nov 2009 at 9:07 pm29Orlando

    Dr. Sivaraman,

    When I first followed your forecasts 4 months ago, I had my share of frustrations. The more I understood your how to use your forecasts and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, the trading strategy, I’ve been able to limit my risk and maximize profit. The only time I run into trouble is by making the same mistakes all traders make: fear, greed, and overtrading.

    The less emotional I am about the market, the better my ability to realize gains. I sincerely hope you continue helping people who are serious and dedicated to trading, like myself, and don’t expect to be given unlimited profit.

    Regards,
    Orlando

  30. on 05 Nov 2009 at 9:12 pm30jaf

    My observations

    the forecast is good for scalper with hedging who aim to make 30 pips.It is no good for traders who want to trade over a longer period

    The forecast has too many emotional words like big drop which everyone else is not allowed to use.Automatically people expect 150 and 250 pips when it is mentioned.

    There is an endless supply of upward and downward supply of stop hunts.

    GP and Euro are lumped as one when they move in oposite directions.

    Timing of the algorithmn does not make sense.

    It is a total different trading strategy from others.Does not use charts ,resistance support,Averages,oscillators etc.Maybe Dr with his maths studies can get this from the price but others neeed this.

    Only players control markets.Maybe they do not have as much power as he thinks.

    No acceptance of timing errors.Usd/yen was supposed to go to 100.I am sure he thinks it is per forecast.But nothing happened for 3 months since forecast made.

    Trend reversal is very imp strategy but the timing of that is not easy and extremely risky if you u get caught out like Pipso.

    It is obvious that people in this blog are trading with fear
    although whole point is to trade without fear

    I have many moree observations but no point putting in blog

    Dr intention is very good and he has good understanding of price action and market psychology but i think it would help everyone if he gave a forecast for long term weekly traders and day players

    thank you

  31. on 06 Nov 2009 at 12:28 am31radha

    EUR/USD :Potential Head and Shoulders formation??

    High 1.5060 and Shoulders (Right & Left) at 1.4860 areas.

    Let’s hope this becomes reality and leads the pair to lower levels. Cheers

  32. on 06 Nov 2009 at 12:34 am32Greg Wilson

    For those of us who plan to stay in the forex game over the long haul, we eventually have to learn how to analayze the market for ourselves. I don’t know of any great or successful trader (and there are a few ), whose success is solely the result of following a forecaster. A professional trader may or may nor listen to this and that forecaster. But when it comes to down to crunch time, they rely on their own judgment, and have no else to blame if a trade goes against him/her. Reaching warrior trading status takes time, discipline and committment. For myself and my own approach to trading, I like to listen and read Dr. Sivaraman’s forecasts, in a quiet, thoughtful and detached manner. But when I look at the charts, I don’t think in terms of the players and their manipulating strategies, even if that may be what is ultimately happening. My preference is to filter out all psychological and emotional brick-a-brac. E.g., right here and now, GBPUSD is moving down (slowly), in a tight range for several hours, off a ceiling at 1.6590, and currently touching a support at new daily central pivot. 1 hr. stochastic is down. These are the facts. I could try to say it another way, i.e., that the operators are handling or taking out buy stops. However my brain is wired so that I’ll probably never understand that way of looking at the market moves like an expert. So I just look at the charts and observe what is happening, here and now, and act or not act accordingly. I’ll never write a post to Dr. Sivaraman asking what he thinks a currency will do five minutes from now, a day or week from now. Honestly, if you’ve been stuck in a negative EURO trade for weeks, there is no one to blame but yourself. And don’t spend too much time playing the blame game either. Live and learn, move on, that’s what life is all about, my friends. Price is the genius, we are just the followers. Tough love.

  33. on 06 Nov 2009 at 3:26 am33jefe

    Still today EU and GY still has more sellers then buyers
    On GU Buying is slowing and more sell positions are being added.

    The sooner we all go long -the sooner the players will drop…

  34. on 06 Nov 2009 at 3:37 am34Luke

    To what level we can expect GU to drop when it finally happens? Is 1.6200 possible?

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