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	<title>Comments on: My Head Hurts! &#124; Part Deux</title>
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	<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/</link>
	<description>Tips &#38; general help to make you a better trader by Phil Newton, Developer of Trading Strategies at TradingStrategies.info</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike,

The sequence given by Phil is not a fib sequence so your analogy is out of context. Fib sequence is a continued fraction (1+1/(1+1/(1+1/1+.....)), and we can derive to a number by manipulating it in various ways.

You have used three numbers (1,2,3) of the fib sequence used in the given series to derive to 10; however, we can also derive to a combination of numbers from this set by using the ordered pairs of subsets, or we can also use the unordered pairs of subsets in a Cartesian Plain to derive to various results. Hence, simply declaring the result as 10 must be overlooked.

So, i still stand with my first comment here.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,</p>
<p>The sequence given by Phil is not a fib sequence so your analogy is out of context. Fib sequence is a continued fraction (1+1/(1+1/(1+1/1+&#8230;..)), and we can derive to a number by manipulating it in various ways.</p>
<p>You have used three numbers (1,2,3) of the fib sequence used in the given series to derive to 10; however, we can also derive to a combination of numbers from this set by using the ordered pairs of subsets, or we can also use the unordered pairs of subsets in a Cartesian Plain to derive to various results. Hence, simply declaring the result as 10 must be overlooked.</p>
<p>So, i still stand with my first comment here.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because of the crisis the trades are becoming very technical. and technical is easy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because of the crisis the trades are becoming very technical. and technical is easy</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its the feb- sequence = 1 + (2)= 3 + (3)= 6 + (4) = 10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its the feb- sequence = 1 + (2)= 3 + (3)= 6 + (4) = 10</p>
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		<title>By: Caro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>Caro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But this is only logical under your trading plan. This doesn't mean that we would have come to this answer if we weren't following YOUR trading plan... so if under my trading plan the answer is 5, then that is the correct answer as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But this is only logical under your trading plan. This doesn&#8217;t mean that we would have come to this answer if we weren&#8217;t following YOUR trading plan&#8230; so if under my trading plan the answer is 5, then that is the correct answer as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ameya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ameya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings

Truth be told, I was expecting something more profound and insightful but what you say Phil is absolutely spot on and I think herein lies a valuable lesson for all, traders or not.

Its no surprise that the market has its own set of rules (that noone really knows) but it our responsibility to create a solid trading plan based on, as you say, a logical set of assumptions with a tested and expected favourable outcome based on probability. In other words, for something to work its gotta be tried and tested with certain assumptions and rules to ensure that the outcome is favourable and consistent.

Thanks Phil for a really interesting and thought provoking exercise.

I can answer your last question with absolute certainty, unlike the previous one, - No! But this will be my next mission - to generate a trading plan and test it.

Ameya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings</p>
<p>Truth be told, I was expecting something more profound and insightful but what you say Phil is absolutely spot on and I think herein lies a valuable lesson for all, traders or not.</p>
<p>Its no surprise that the market has its own set of rules (that noone really knows) but it our responsibility to create a solid trading plan based on, as you say, a logical set of assumptions with a tested and expected favourable outcome based on probability. In other words, for something to work its gotta be tried and tested with certain assumptions and rules to ensure that the outcome is favourable and consistent.</p>
<p>Thanks Phil for a really interesting and thought provoking exercise.</p>
<p>I can answer your last question with absolute certainty, unlike the previous one, - No! But this will be my next mission - to generate a trading plan and test it.</p>
<p>Ameya</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.fxstreet.com/tradesetups/2008/12/01/my-head-hurts-part-deux/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Phil,

Just saying the answer is '10' is as illogical as saying the answer is Orange Juice. Because the question is a open ended sequence, so you can make up any type of recurrence sequence from there or you can guess whatever you would like. Hence, i strongly disagree with your answer.

Alternatively, it would make sense given a sequence like this:
1,2,3,4,?,6,7,8,9,30,........

So, i would say, your question and answer does not really make proper sense.

Hope, i made my point.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>Just saying the answer is &#8216;10&#8242; is as illogical as saying the answer is Orange Juice. Because the question is a open ended sequence, so you can make up any type of recurrence sequence from there or you can guess whatever you would like. Hence, i strongly disagree with your answer.</p>
<p>Alternatively, it would make sense given a sequence like this:<br />
1,2,3,4,?,6,7,8,9,30,&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>So, i would say, your question and answer does not really make proper sense.</p>
<p>Hope, i made my point.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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